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INQB8R interviews Gosh from "Yaputhma Sound System" (a.k.a. DJ Snobo)
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gosh
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Posted: 11 Jun 2008 13:16
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Dirty Deal and musicians
As a label, they don't mean much to me. Good that it exists, in Latvia when people are so sleepy every started venture counts ;) Which way it could differ? Only by music itself. I don't care about the concepts. So far it hasn't released anything breathtaking, even worse - it seems too unreliable, lacking focus and musical vision. But the Cliche album was good.
Gonzo's release on DD is very weak. It just absolutely shows no sign of his genius. Why? I don't know, although I can guess. It's a traditional problem not for only Gonzo, but the majority of Latvian underground musicians: not enough dedication to their own work, including the preparation of releases. On the other hand, I know Gonzo since 1997-98, and I HEARD those dozens of absolutely unique, fresh, original, exciting tracks. Dakstiņ? pales in comparison... So it's not a miracle that he was "strong enough", it's a sad misstep to release such an "unexpressive work", completely agree.
Cliche aka
Feenixz
? He's also a veteran from the 90s, and I believe he's got much more under his belt than
Galaktiskas Skumjas
, which was not superb from start to finish but still good enough. At least much more fresh that the
Rabbeat
stuff ;-P
Do you think there is a lot of Latvian labels and/or musicians which gained the worldwide success?
It's a sad fact, that virtually none. Agree?
Why? As I said above, I have an impression that we're all here are sleepy... So many bright guys started making tracks in the 90s, and where are their albums, EPs, 12"s? In the internet era, you can send your demos worldwide and get released anywhere. The newcomers from every corner of the world release their techno, dubstep, indie-pop, noise on labels from the other side of the planet. Why don't we?
The diminutiveness and seclusion of the local scene leads to the lack of healthy competition, cross-pollination and generally, you know what genetically happens in small secluded populations... The more (net)labels we would have, the more live shows, and which is the most important - the more Latvian artist would release their work outside, and the more fresh artists would come here, the more vibrating the scene would be. But now it still seems to me that we're behind the Iron Curtain to some extent. Too much Metallica's and Deep Purple's coming here, too much Essentials and Baltic First's. And the only one
Skaņu Me?s
full of noisenik terrorists. Ok, and
Klusa Daba
(too many djs though, not enough distinct artists).
But still, even really talented and unique artists don't get ANY worldwide success. That pisses me off. Why
Satellites LV
"Kind of Glue" and
Jānis ?ilde
's "Stāvi" are not released worldwide on some decent label? So bad... I know, it's not easy to get a contract, I just pity that the work of totally world class level and a sheer beauty will not get known to the world.
There is a (relatively) new band called
Dun Dun
, what they do live made me almost collapse out of delight, 2 times already. It's not just a normal world level, it's better than fucking praised Battles! It's top music by all my musical criteria. But... they don't send dozens of demos around. I talked to them, they're too shy. And so are all of the other talented guys here...
So the musicians in Latvia belong to three groups (no genre dependence):
1) typical pop shit with mass appeal. Vast majority.
2) middle-of-the-road: more or less secondary stuff, thus hardly can be interested worldwide, therefore local appeal only;
3) talented underground solitaries, too shy and undedicated to bring their music to the world.
However, I have an impression that in 2007, maybe even in 2006, something finally started moving. Like after a decade-long sopor. At least in organization area... Maybe partly (or greatly) due to
Andrejsala
's appearance. Let's see if now the sopor returns... >;-7
INQB8R
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Posted: 16 Jun 2008 20:27 - Edited by: INQB8R
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We can add nothing to your recent thoughts
regarding Latvian scene
, agree almost with anything. Maybe only answering "why" it happens, we could argue that happens not because the musicians are shy.
First of all, to break the worldwide scene, it's needed to create something which is still not taken by anyone else. A personal brand. To be not similar, but to completely different from the others. It seems impossible, but it's not. Right now the world is prepared to breakout the music.
We think it's a common mistake on Latvian musicians when they are trying to "repeat" the style of their predecessors. It's a good way to start, but not the good way to win. For example, regarding Dun Dun or Janis Zhilde we could only agree with you and rate their work on very top quality level
(it would be good to see their EP released with us, but obviously it's impossible, because such EP would cost the money invested ;-)
But besides their good playing technique, they do not have a "branding point" to get up. Bark Psychosis, Mogwai, Tortoise and even Sigur Ros could be mentioned in the same genre (we see you love post rock a lot!) - besides a technique, they have their own 'face', so you can't mess it with anything else. It's a key to the secret we think.
Second... still, it's a money question. We have recently sent XIIORA's release to Frans de Waard's
Vital Weekly
review while visiting Netherlands, and our little investment regarding postal fees was just a subject of curiosity. But it surprisingly worked! Even this release seems just too funny for you (and maybe too serious for
other reviewers
), we have got a
grounded review from mr.Waard
which this release really deserves... because we think there is really a hidden space in it. Frans didn't skip it! That's what we could call a "real" promotion: curiosity + enthusiasm + following the goal for a long term. Wag the dog gradually.
More powerful promoting always means a lot of investment. To bring up the power of suggestion, you know... This power can be only bought, or organized if you have A LOT of enthusiasts. When we are three on our label, or when Dun Dun are four
plus maybe somebody on their publishing side
, it's impossible to do a massive attack on many listeners impression.
And... would it be really needed? This will work only if you really want to impress a crowd; but not everybody is trying to be in every corner, we are trying to find our own audience too. It's even more difficult. Again, only longterm patience matters.
Enough for
Lettonie
, but
what kind of worldwide net labels, or free upcoming music sources, could you recommend to check? And what music have you enjoyed right this or past week?
gosh
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Posted: 2 Sep 2008 21:45
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What kind of worldwide net labels, or free upcoming music sources, could you recommend to check? And what music have you enjoyed right this or past week?
Honestly, full disclosure ;-)
I'm not the fan of netlabels
per se
. Maybe I just haven't succeeded in finding, maybe I even haven't been looking hard enough... But so far, personally, I almost have not found anything released on a free basis as powerful artistically as "touchable" releases. After quite a few failures, I just stopped active searchings and simply prefer checking the CD/vinyl/Beatport/whatever, browsing through Boomkat, Pitchfork, Textura and sometimes something else (plus of course friends' recommendations). In the times of musical overload this is already more than enough to have a vast array of releases to check.
I'm not going to criticize the idea of releasing music for free download. This approach is completely valid. Although I think there still is a sense in "natural quality control" just by the fact that in order to produce a physical release, there must be a few more people who like this particular music apart from its creator, and they all trust in it to an extent that they're ready to invest/risk their (sometimes very own) money to get it released... But anyway. It's just my own personal experience.
Answering the second question. The VERY latest things I have enjoyed:
Aki Onda - Beautiful Contradiction & Un Petit Tour (All Access)
Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too (Smalltown Supersound) STS153
Morgan Geist - Double Night Time (soon to be out on Environ)
Glowing Glisses - Bassqueen EP (Mule Electronic MULE 048)
Intrusion [=Stephen Hitchell] - Tswana Dub (INTRUSION 1)
Luciano - Fabric 41 mix
Freund der Familie - K?nig Der Welt & Sark EPs
two first podcasts (haven't heard the others yet) by Evan Bartholomew @ Somnia
Marla Hansen - Wedding Day EP (
unreleased???
)
various albums by
World Standard
, especially Alabaster
and then over & over on repeat - latest Sigur Ros and Grouper albums (covered in
my July fave report here
)
I liked a lot
Pole live @ Videotextures 30.08.2008
. Didn't actually expected that it would be that good; everything after the timeless trilogy 1-3 had left be me a bit (R) or almost completely (the other releases) cold. I hope for the resurrection of Pole-power ;)
Check also my
previous report
and the
2007 annual chart
.
P.S. I seem to finally (re)discover a netlabel that satisfies my tastes...
Enypnion
! Heard a release from
Furthr
before... But didn't care to check the rest. Well, so far I like everything. It's a rare and refreshing case of dubtechno which [mostly] DOESN'T clone Deepchord/Basic Channel sound. I still deeply love these fathers of dubtech, but the scene is already overfilled with their replicators... And when someone manages to do something really different (like e.g. Experimenthal Dubbing Sessions), it's very exciting.
I am sure there should be others... you need to look hard enough for them though ;-)
P.P.S. Last minute addition ? one of the top 3 (or even 2) concerts of the year for me should be
Bell Orchestre @ Depo 15.09.2008
. It's one of my absolutely favourite bands, absolutely unique, mind-blowingly ecstatic, with music ranging from pianissimo to fortissimo, improvisation intertwined with complex structures and tempos, acoustics combined with analog pedal trickery, gorgeous melodies alternated with (mild) noise symphonies and tutti grooving, and on top of that - personal charm of Sarah Neufeld and Richard Parry ;)
INQB8R
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Posted: 27 Sep 2008 21:58 - Edited by: INQB8R
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There must be a few more people who like this particular music apart from its creator, and they all trust in it to an extent that they're ready to invest/risk their (sometimes very own) money to get it released...
These are great words, and they fully discover the concept of our label at least :-) We are exactly such team of "few more people" which risk with their own investment and reputation... and this is an investment of our few years of experience and working efforts spent actually. Maybe they're worth the money, the time will show ;-)
We can also add to it that net labels definitely have more future than "regular" releases... Freedom of choice always wins, and the music you find for your own becomes even more important in that case. On the other hand, music shouldn't be written for money, else it loses its breathing. We specially mean commercial releases on CDs which are hugely promoted... last time they become more and more dirty. For example, take recent 2008's
Moby
or
Enigma
albums... those are so weak and regular that even
we
wouldn't accept to release them for free ;-)
Thank you for clarification of our final question! These fresh names mentioned in your list definitely deserve not just our, but everybody's attention then. Honestly we, too, didn't even hear about anybody by now. Like always, it's good to be referenced by a person who you know about or the favorite label who cares not just about musicians released on it ;-)
But just to mention - it will be hard for us, and for anybody else too, to rate and find this music... just because it's not
officially
published for free download!
Also we appreciate your (positive) opinion on Sweeping Logic, this work definitely deserves the
classics
meaning.
At the end, a bit about Enypnion label: we understand your choice, specially their recent releases are exciting (first ones were
frankly weak
too, and the mystery about its owners/founders makes sense for those liking mysteries. But in our opinion, it deserves just a classified label review. There is huge amount of deep/dub techno genre fans, so any label which releases a qualified music in that genre, always has a chance to find ears (not saying such genre is explored within years by many many followers which is not an exciting fact for us). They run for 2 years already, so let's see what happens next... like any other genre-dependent label, it may exhaust itself soon.
Initially, we were talking about genre-independant label like ours exactly because we don't like genre classifications, and specially we would avoid to release music which strictly classified by one genre. It's boring and there is too much of
conjuncture
. We are paying more interest to personalities else a genre. Personalities are a lot born and they will never exhaust themselves until the planet, not only your own planet, spins ;-)
We're really glad you accepted to be a first not-so-regular-person in our first interview - it was useful for us, and we appreciate everything that you have wrote. It seems we already have a lot of ideas on the stronger specification of our concepts, and exactly you helped us in it. It seems your star won't stop flashing, in the next few years at least! ;-)
Good luck with your new ideas, and as always... we hope to see your EP on INQB8R!
P.S. Sad we didn't visit this Depo concert so we can't add nothing... but Pole's performance was exciting, we agree! The same we could say about
Robert Rich
... it was very unusual, still rainy ;-) See you next year on
Balta Nakts
... we hope this Latvian project will live for few years at least... not end up in coma like almost everything here ;-)
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